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camels
01-30-2007, 01:47 PM
Is there any plants that camels particularly don't like, but that aren't poisonous to them? I want to get some sort of tall plant to conceal a new propane tank I got on the property, but I don't necessarily want to attract the camel near the tank. I was thinking about planting some shrubs, or trees or whatever around it. Anything they tend to avoid eating?

I emailed this same question to my camel's breeder, but I wanted to get some different options. As long as it will grow in the Southwestern united states, I don't care what it looks like...its better than a giant propane tank!

potemkin
01-30-2007, 02:46 PM
Hmmm. I live in Germany and for European Cameleers the most dangerous things are: 1. of all. Deadly poisonous: yew, or English yew, or also European yew. = Taxus Baccata (lat.)
then i found a helpfull Link: http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/
also Rhododendron tree.

camels
01-30-2007, 03:02 PM
I don't want to use anything toxic, in case the camel eats it anyway. some kind of plant they won't want to eat, but won't hurt them if they do.

Cameleer
01-30-2007, 04:36 PM
Oleander is one of the most poisonous plants and contains numerous toxic compounds, many of which can be deadly to people, especially young children. The toxicity of Oleander is considered extremely high and it has been reported that in some cases only a small amount had lethal or near lethal effects.

As for what type to plant I can’t say, I don’t know the names of different types of shrubs people are planting around here, but Gobi doesn’t like any of them. He’s more likely to go for the trees.

camels
01-30-2007, 06:16 PM
so trying any kind of shrubby plant to hide this ugly propane tank would probably be a safe bet?

potemkin
01-31-2007, 01:33 PM
Hi Junior Member, Lissen. I now one thing that my Camels hate and will never eat, that is: in American: elder, Sambucus canadensis, that would be the best thing. But iff it will grow in the dry southern territory, i dont no? . Elder, this is quick high, the Tank is hidden and you can be shure, that Camels will not surprise you in the manner that you find them eating what you get planted several minutes before and you see the dirty smiling on there faces.. regards from good old europe. nice to see that in the new world you have like us the same problems that we have also in the old world.

I would like to add one point more: My Camels generaly there smell only on poisonous plants and trees. I stay them in this moment nearly and with the most warning voice i tell them. For Example: First the Animals name: "Goliath" dont eat that!!! Its poisonous.The animals look to me and i repeat with more loudness the same words. In the end there go away and probably get registred the meaning for what i got the warning to them. I think that Camels first of all, there have from houseanimals the finest sense of - i would tell them - the conserved natural sense of wilderness animals instinct.

I found an other thing in my memory where i got troubles with my first Camels. I was on a trek in the Alps, and Goliath had taken the decision to eat:
bay (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/hCiE.&search=bay) der (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=der) Lorbeer (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=Lorbeer) - Baum tree wiss.: Laurus nobilislaurel (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/hCiE.&search=laurel) der (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=der) Lorbeer (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=Lorbeer) Zusammengesetzte Einträge spurge (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/hCiE.&search=spurge) laurel (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/hCiE.&search=laurel) der (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=der) Lorbeer-Seidelbast (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=Lorbeer-Seidelbast) wiss.: Daphne laureola

But in the same way my warning voice, was helpfull to him, and with the look of a Baby he had the expression on his face that he had understud for what i was warning him. Since this day, i had other cases like the first. An other case was with :
ivy (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/hCiE.&search=ivy) [bot.] der (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=der) [B]Efeu (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=Efeu)

I relaunched my warning voice to him, and he let it bee, but latter, it was a written on a german scentific book, that ivy is not deadly dangerous for Lamas and Alpacas. So i let him eat ivy. And Camels like ivy specialy in wintertime. And ivy is very poisonous for horses. But my camels there eat a lot of ivy without any problems. But Attention with
Unmittelbare Trefferbrake (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/hCiE.&search=brake) der (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=der) Farn (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=Farn)fern (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/hCiE.&search=fern) der (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=der) Farn (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/p3dk.&search=Farn)

that is, following the description of a german veterinarian, no good for female Lamas and Alpacas ====> abortus ... i hope you can understand my Kitchen english...if not sorry

camelsinfrance
05-01-2007, 03:02 AM
Potemkin, I loved that quote...

"You shout to them that it's a poisonous plant! " I'm glad it worked for you

My girls attacked my peas yesterday, despite me telling them several times, they finished them off and then started on the fence. They wouldn't believe me that they were poisionous! Infact, I think they were quite delicious, though I'll never know

I have a yew though in my front garden (where my camels come to play) at the moment it's sectioned off from them, but I would like them to go up past it and help eat a bunch of overgrowing plants, do you think they would actually "try" the yew, or do you think they'd just leave it alone?

potemkin
05-01-2007, 03:15 PM
Hard to say if they let yew. But yew is poisonous. I would erase all yew in my area. But in your area is this very comun.