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Cameleer
12-07-2006, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by: Potemkin


You ask for Cameel Shoes...
European camel breedings shunned no costs to present for what you are asking for. We proudly present.... :applaus :applaus
http://www.webcamel.de/resources/400_3737633362626665.jpg

a real Bactrian Camel in shoes. And thats not a joke :rofl

potemkin
12-20-2006, 12:30 PM
The shoes were made because "Goliath" had haevy problems with walking. Our veterinarian, Dr. Tilman Richter, Usingen, Germany, he also has 10 Bactrian Camels, he got the idea transformed ba the aid of Georg Wessels, Worlds most famous shoemaker for bigfooteth peoples, and just to bring in relation, one pair of this kind of Camel-Shoes, what doe you think how expensive this will come?

http://camelphotos.com/pic/camel_boots.jpg

http://camelphotos.com/pic/camel_boot.jpg

"Goliath" lies down with the shoes without any kind of problems. We are just let him making an other better pair of shoes. You can see the shoe is in his end higher then in the front. So he come up and this change of sceletryposition forms his muscels and make stronge the "ligamentums" (latin) so and now the result what there cost. Sit down first please. OK are you ready? Euro 3000.-- = today USD 3.961,80

I love Gobi
12-22-2006, 01:50 AM
More than $3,000 US for all 4 boots? Well, if they do the job and Goliath is happy and comfortable, then it's worth the money. I hope they last a long time and don't need to be replaced often! :eek:
Your English is just great! I thank you for writing in English so we can all share your thoughts and your humor! I love your website. Using Bactrians for Therapeutic Riding is fantastic. Some day before I die I want to ride a Bactrian! :laughabove :)

potemkin
12-22-2006, 02:00 AM
You have understud it rong. Its one pair of shoes USD 3961.-- not 4 shoes or two pairs. Two pairs = USD 7922.-- but cooldown. The shoes are sponserd by Wessel´s Shoemakery. I can reccomand his job. The shoes are very comfortable and he can even run in his shoes. He feel very well. After our big walk from over 3000 miles trough Europe in 2002, he begun to have genetic problems in the summer 2004 when he just was down and he refused to walk. The shoes was the last chance. We give him also medical assistence and medicaments but more latter. OK?
Wessels, hi maked also the shoes of the 1o biggest peoples on the world. This facts brought me on the idea. Iff somebody is able to make shoes for very heavy people then he can probably doe that also for a camel. And i can tell you it is just a very good job he have done. Thx Georg!!

Concerned our job "Terapeutical Camel-Riding" we would to be glade to bring you some movies into this Forum. Probably we have to ask Roger how we can insert the Copylink from Youtube.

Merry Christmas to you and a Happy New year :xmas

out of the deap Black Forest over the Ocean to you my Friends
Joerg

I love Gobi
12-22-2006, 02:06 AM
Whew! I'm glad they didn't cost you that much money, Joerg.

Merry Christmas to you, too, and to your beautiful family. :xmas
It would be wonderful to be able to see videos of your therapeutic riding program. Maybe Roger knows how to do it.

Cameleer
12-22-2006, 02:09 AM
I know of a few camels that were euthanized (put down) because of this type of foot problem. One of the camels were owned by a close friend. As he grew and got heaver the problem intensified. It was very sad seeing this young camel suffering, he was so sweet and didn’t even survive his first year.

I love Gobi
12-22-2006, 02:12 AM
Is the foot problem something that it was born with, or does it develop over time? Is it a skeletal condition?

potemkin
12-22-2006, 02:20 AM
how to fixe corrections- hoofshoes on a Camel? Impossible a camel is not a horse a donkey or a cow! The European Camelpopulation is very but very reducede in the genetic point of view. We have a lot of rubbish. I must admit "Goliath" he also is the result of this policie to never give a bloodrefreshment to our European Stock. Same story with our Lamas... Just ignorants our Governement-Veterinarians who prevent Imports from the Indigene countrys for such a very long periode. It is just a crime!
One thing is important to add: Never ride a Camel bevor he is at minimum over 3 years old. And even not give him a heavy Saddlepack!!!

potemkin
12-22-2006, 02:34 AM
Our veterinarian Dr. med. vet. Tilman Richter, he had written an article by the German veterinarian tribune. Edited last year in October. I will provide to bring you the translation on this Forum. Of course it is a bigbig Problem. But let me say: Even with this, partially genetic defect and partially sekletal rachitical component the camel can have also a long livespan.
At all that we now are the first newbourne camels the camels under the higgest risc to end with this problem. It is very painfull for me to see how "Goliath" walk like a handicaped. But from time to time i can see he enjoy a lot his live. And i will spend all my money to make researches for him to give him any kind of help. Next step in our therapeutic assistance for "Goliath" will be to let him pull a waggon. And in the future probably we will buy a Treatmill for him...but this is very expensive...

after the treatment with the shoes "Goliath" is able again to walk like http://images.google.de/images?q=tbn:c2Y6sAVhe1806M:http://movimientostalinvive. (probably gif pics are not alloud here..jonny Walker ) and he walk per day without problem 10 miles

I love Gobi
12-22-2006, 02:44 AM
That is sad about Goliath, but you are giving him everything he needs to be a happy bactrian. :king
My conmputer browser won't open the link you posted. Is this link also on your personal website?

potemkin
12-22-2006, 02:57 AM
no it is just an emmbedded Link from the Web. But i think on this Forum gif. s are not alloud. The Link shows Jonny Walker from world famous Whiskey Distillery) walking

Yes Goliath he seem to bee happy but i am very sad about his handicap. He was our most confident therpeutic-Camel. With a comfortable walk. Hi is so intelligent and sweet with Mongoloid children for expl. Riding on "Goliath" was my allmost best Hobby. But i got his brother "Alibaba" born on 2004 buying him last year and also his third brother "Sansibar born last summer. So my time will come again where i can ride his brothers. In this moment we have only "Suleika" who is ridebar and "Selim" ...but this is an other Story

I love Gobi
12-22-2006, 03:00 AM
I find myself visiting your Web Cam (el ) often. I like your camel shelter. Cinderblocks are a good way to go. What have you made your roof out of? Is it metal, or maybe wood with shingles? I should ask you this on the other thread that deals with shelters! :D

potemkin
12-22-2006, 03:13 AM
i will post very soon some pics from my stable. So you can see that the stable is directly in my house. I sleep behind the wall on the right side when you go on the Webcam(el). This doe the fact that we are not farmers in the terms of our german lows we have no rights to make a concept-stable in the green. So we was forced to transform our garage in a stable. in the upperside over the camels we have hay stocked in the manner that we can feed them in the heavy wintertime directly in the house. You have to now we life here in the mountains. And it is very snowy here in the cold season. The roof above is in shingles in tone brick. satisfied with this response? Are you maybee thinking to be a new camelbreeder? Where doe u life?

I love Gobi
12-22-2006, 03:18 AM
Yes, I understand how your stable and house are connected. What a wonderful way to have things arranged! You can get out of bed and toss them some hay. You don't have to go outside when it's cold!
I live in Western New York State in the USA. We get snow in Winter, but not like what YOU get! Someday I want a Bactrian. I have a Miniature Horse right now who pulls a little cart. I think she would like a Bactrian for company. :clap :rofl

potemkin
12-22-2006, 03:30 AM
Camels are stoves animals!!!! There don´t like to be allone! Only a male you can hold allone. But better is two camels together. Please feel free to give also a look to the thread: "Horses and camels together ?" My opinion is. No Camels would like to grow up without companion. But thats my opinion!
In the front of my sleepingroom i have a door where i can reach the stable binnen one minute. And in the nighttime when there prefer to stay inside i can hear them. The problem is ventilate the dwelling....then i got often very delicate moments comming back to my bedroom finding all my 4 camels in my room. Can you imagine? :elephant :elephant :elephant

I love Gobi
12-22-2006, 03:37 AM
Sounds like you need thicker walls! :rofl :rofl
I guess Camels are a lot like Llamas. One should not have a single Llama, either.
Thank-you for telling me about the "horses and camels together" thread. I'll go look at it right now. :clap

Cameleer
12-23-2006, 05:10 AM
Dropped Pastern .....
The pastern is the area between the fetlock and the foot. An area of tendons and ligaments, the pastern is the shock absorber for the fetlock. When viewed from the side, the pasterns should be vertical with very little angle. When an angle starts to develop in the pastern, it is termed a "soft pastern" and the animal is considered unsound. Although the animal's movement may not be hindered or he may not appear to be in any pain, he should be retired from packing, driving, or excessive activities at this time.

You'll probably notice the animal selecting a slower pace and not wanting to run. As time goes on, the pastern can completely "drop" as seen in the one photograph. Arthritis can set in the compromised joint and result in a painful condition. Although this soft pastern is seen in some older animals, many animals are still very upright and strong in their old age.

The cause is thought to be possibly hereditary, or possibly the animal started packing too much weight at an early age, or perhaps started pulling a cart too young, or even perhaps caused by carrying extra weight through numerous pregnancies. Obviously, an animal that is overweight may have more problems in this area. Also ones born prematurely can often be affected with this problem. There are some horse products containing glucosamine that may offer the animal some relief if added to their diet.

camel2
12-24-2006, 08:28 AM
That is just so neat!! I had to show my co-workers the pics of your camel in boots as well as wearing the raincoat. Thanks for sharing!!