Hello to all camelfriends

[Ljagushka]

Hello,

thank you for this great forum.

I am from Germany and I am looking for camelowners in Germany and
other countries in Europe.

[may]

Hello Ljaguschka!
Welcome to the forum!

Here some Links to camleowners in Germany, if you haven't found them yet:
(Or maybe you are one of them? :) )

http://www.kamele-mit-herz.de/
http://www.zilleskamelfreunde.de/index.htm
http://www.kameloase.de/home.htm
http://www.lama-llamera.de./
http://www.fleckschnupphof.de/

See you,
may

[Ljagushka]

Hi May,


thank you for the links. I know the websides but not the farms.
Did you visited some? Can you tell us something about?

Kind regards
Ljaguschka

[camelsinfrance]

Hi and welcome to camel keeping in Europe
We have a camel farm on the H Pyrenees in France
Check out www.lamaisondeschameaux.com
If you need further information please do not hesitate to call me
0033 562 33 36 24
PS - there is a database of Camels in Europe, if you would like further information, please call!

[may]

Did you visited some? Can you tell us something about?


Hello again,

I have been visiting the Fleckschnupphof and the 'llamera'-people.

What can I tell? :o

Friendly and relaxed people, relaxed and friendly camels.
The websites give a good impression of them, I think.
I went there just to meet camels and have a chat to the people. Which was wonderful.
If I would be a camel in germany, I wouldn't mind living at one of those places.

If you want to get more detailed information, you can ask me again or you can drop them a line, if you like as they wouldn't mind, I think :)

Cheers, may

[camelidman]

Hi,
I'm in France, Bourgogne (Saone et Loire) to be exact. We're 1.5 hours from Lyon, 2.5 hours from Dijon, and half an hour to both Charolles and Cluny.
I'm new to keeping camels, but if ever you're in the region and looking to visit or to meet up to talk camels, just let me know.

Where are you in Germany? I often visit München on business and sometimes get up to Berlin. I've also been to the llamera farm. I was struck by how well informed they are. Very nice people.

Kind regards,
Jon

[Ljagushka]

Hi,

thank you very much for your answers. I will plan a round trip
to the "German camel world" to get information before I start
my own camel-project.

@ Jon: I live in Nürnberg and thanks a lot for your invitation.
Where have you buy your camels? I can´t find any
sales-lists.

Best wishes to all of you

[camelidman]

I bought through an agent in France. Although knowing what I do now, I wouldn't do that again.
He sourced the female from a zoo in N.France and the male from Germany. When they arrived the female was in really bad shape, with a fecal egg count through the roof and she was REALLY underweight. With perserverance I've got her starting to look good, but she's still got a long way to go. The male is a superstar, no complaints there! With both animals I paid over the norm, but I wouldn't have minded that if they were both in good health and I was given any post sales support.
Bottom line is that if I bought again I'd have many more questions to ask and I'd take a vet, or at least a knowledgeable person with me.
Looking back I get a shudder through my spine thinking about how reckless my attitude was concerning buying them. It's all worked out now (6 months on), with a little way to go, but it I was really a disaster looking for a place to happen back then. My present situation is down to luck rather than judgement.

Since their arrival I've seen a few adverts for bactrians (as they are what I opted for), but I'd be more inclined to approach reputable breeders/trekking farms and ask if they have any cria that they are willing to part with. If not, leave your contact details, and wait.

One thing I did do correctly was setting things up here on the farm. This is really important, as their housing/fencing/husbandy requirements are much different to my other stock. I also hit the veterinary book stores and bought them out! One book I find indispensible is, 'Camels: A compendium', by Manefield and Tinson. However, I do find vet services hard to manage, as understandably, camels are not a species that they have reason to deal with every day. So mine can need a bit of a push, to say the least! Luckily I have a close friend that specialises in the other camelids, so with his help and the experience I have, we get along okay.

Plus, you'd be surprised at the number of private messages you'll get sent on this forum from some great people that will advise on the whole range of veterinary subjects.

Hope that helps. I'm sorry if the latter is stuff you already knew, but hopefully the sourcing advice will be of some use.

I'm still hiking up the steep learning curve, but if I can do anything to help please let me know.

All the best,
Jon

[Ljagushka]

Hello again,

yesterday I had a long call with the llamera farm. @ may: thanks a lot for
this tip.

Next week I will visit them (it´s only 3 hours per car). He is a vet and
I think that is a good pre-condition. I hope I can learn a lot.

It´s a moot question whether they will sell camels in the future or not
because they would only sell trained camels so that the new owner
has no problems. Maybe I can catch one or two.

@ Jon: thank you for your help. It´s really great.

Have a nice time and excuse my very bad english.

Bye bye
Ljagushka (it´s a camel I saw on a camelfarm in Duisburg 15 years ago)